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. >> it might happen, i was curious with president and mitt romney having lunch, whether obama presented him a bill for lunch, and added a 40% gra % gra on it. neil: they had turkey chili. >> let me tell you. one thing we have to do, i work in my 7 industry, we have to figure out a way to do comprehensive tax reform. doing a lot of act before we get there. >> not one major candidate mentioned that once. that is what vi got to do for the good of america. neil: when we come back, you bailed out gm, now general motors is doling out big bucks to create jobs-in china. to create jobs-in china. the judge on whether shanghai the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! doou want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more
. this afternoon the president hosted his vanquished rival, mitt romney. no word yet on if mr. romney found the cookies up to his rig rouse standards or how many white house beers the president decided to drink. we're also holding out hope that a savvy waiter or waitress caught at least 47% of the lunch on cell phone video. while in washington romney also met with his former running mate, the marathoner paul ryan, and offered a few kind words about him to the press. >> mr. romney, how was your meeting with mr. ryan today? was it nice to see him? >> that's a greet friend. good to be with him. >> good to be with him? >> always great to see paul ryan. >> while today's lunch was perhaps an opportunity to shake after a hard fought campaign, not everybody was feeling so friendly. take for example john bain mother earlier today slammed the president for campaign style events on the fiscal cliff. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it
at the white house. we don't know what's on the menu when president obama, mitt romney meet for lunch today. that's right. the president is hosting his former rival about 30 minutes or so from now. it is a promise the president made during a victory speech on election night. listen. >> it's only because we love this country deeply. we care so strongly about its future. in the weeks ahead i also look forward to sitting down with governor romney to talk about where we can work together to move this country forward. >> mitt romney, he was stunned by his defeat, but gracious in his concession speech. it looked like everybody was ready to make nice until romney's remarks in a phone call to top donors days after the election. he said he lost because president obama gave policy gifts to key voting groups, including miss panics, african-americans, and young voters. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote. >> fast forward to today when
date for mitt romney, going to the white house to meet with president obama. >> making a run for it, a zebra and a pony. those are real pictures. welcome to "early start." this was sent to us yesterday. they said this is a serious and true story. i said no way. it is. john berman is hosting "starting point" at 7:00, it's now 5:00 a.m. in the east. first 33 days until we reach the fiscal cliff and things are heating up on capitol hill. tim geithner, the chief fiscal cliff negotiator will meet with congressional leaders in an effort to get talks moving. there's no time to waste because there may be 33 days to get a deal done, but congress breaks for the holiday. that happens in just 15 days. white house correspondent dan lothian is live from washington this morning. dan, that clock is ticking louder and louder what is the very latest? i hear there are one-on-one meetings happening today. >> that's right. these are the president himself not sitting down and talking with lawmakers, but timothy geithner will be on capitol hill and other senior level members of the administration trying t
't hit the jackpot you could be a millionaire. >> excellent. talk about awkward. mitt romney and president obama set to break bread at the white house in a couple of hours. but why? details live on washington on the meeting we were all hoping to be a fly on the wall at. >> how a simple phototurned a cop into a viral angel. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> gretchen: good morning, everybody. so everyone should give up because this is the winning ticket right here. >> steve: we didn't give up. >> brian: you get it from missouri. >> gretchen: there are millionaires in new york and new jersey and connecticut. so who knows? stay tuned if you live in those three states. >> brian: it is a happy day for me, we can no longer talk about powerball. i am so tired of the story. give the people the billions. >> steve: now they are part of the one percent that are demonized by the democrats. >> gretchen: two people waking up winning in the 550 million powerball jackpot. did you realize tickets are up to two dollars a piece. i went to buy five. they changed it
. he's right, isn't he? the math doesn't add up. it didn't add up with mitt romney. it doesn't add up today. >> it doesn't add up, and those targeted revenue measures serve certain goals that we actually care about more than helping billionaires. those goals include what you just said, incentivizing charitable giving, and also home ownership, which is a middle to upper class benefit, but it's one that we've always encouraged with the mortgage interest rate deduction because we want people moving into the middle class. that matters more, that is better than just worrying about billionaires. one other point i want to hit since we're on the martin bashir show, i know this is a place for real talk so if we can have some real talk for a second. there is no fiscal cliff. there's no special deadline. these are long-term debates. you were asking mr. russert about the past negotiations because these are debates we've had in the past that we will continue to have in the future. some people would rather solve them in the bottom of the ninth. that would be better. but if we go into the tenth or 1
lost. that was your position before the election, and you lost. mitt romney campaigned on keeping the tax cuts for the wealthy, and he lost. and he promised to do what john boehner is doing right now, and he lost. how about some respect for the electorate? how about seeing what the 2012 presidential debate was about? obama championed tax fairness and won. republicans championed protecting that 2%, ignoring the 47% he talked about, and they lost. today boehner said he's willing to raise revenues by the same amount he agreed to back in august of 2011, the last time they had this fight. again, he's willing to act like the election never happened. no wonder. again, he lost. joining me is joy reid of the grio and howard fineman of the "huffington post." joy, you're chuckling because it is weirdly true. it's almost like groundhog day, this guy, boehner, he's not a bad guy, but he's operating on a bad thought here. the election didn't happen. >> it's incredible. it's amazing watching john boehner reach for anything, simpson/bowles which, by the way, assumed that the tax cuts for the top
nation. a look at how president obama and mitt romney fared in various parts of the country. of course the patchwork nation project breaks the u.s. into 12 types of communities. go to my trusty board here. remind you, boom towns, military, money, evangelical epicenters, mormon outposts, immigration nations, service worker centers, industrial metropolitan and tractor countries. going into the election, this is what we were telling you. mitt romney needed to do this well in the typical gop strongholds. evangelical centers, tractor country, mormon, look at this. he did out perform bush in all of these areas. all of these areas. he increased bush's margins or stayed the same in the key republican areas. and if you look at this, for president obama versus john kerry, again looking at this through '04 and the 12 lens the president did the same thing. topped him by five points in the industrial metropolis counties and increased the campus centers by a point in those counties. in fact, it was not a surprise. according to the director of the patchwork nation project he was on the show back in j
visits mitt romney to the white house today and everyone is buzzing about it. could obama offer him a job? >> congratulations to someone. you just won the gdp of a small nation. not just one but two winning tickets in last night's record powerball drawing. we'll tell you where. >> and if they will be my best friend soon. we have a packed show. john ba, rasso, adam shif, rick warren, tom cole, connie and mary bono mack and steven holcomb. >> we have so many people coming up. it is thursday, november 2. "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. our starting point this morning, developments happening now in cairo. the u.s. embassy there is closed. no one is being allowed in or out as we speak. >> embassy officials say protesters are blocking the entrance and clashes are happening near nearby. reza sayah is nearby for us. what's happening? >> reporter: there is no indication protesters are targeting the u.s. em wibassy b it was closed as a precaution. these are protesters who clashed with police. these are the trouble-making elements, the teenagers, young men, the 20-some
appears to have the same form of anesthesia mitt romney was suffering from on the campaign trail. he tells supporters, if our offer is not acceptable to the president, then he has an obligation to show leadership by presenting a credible plan of his own that can pass both houses of congress. but the white house already presented a plan and the american people backed it up. democratic senators were quick to point out that republicans can pass a bill right now to extend 98% of the bush-era tax cuts. >> so it's really simple. it's there, it's one thing that we agree on. we need just to get it done. >> republican leaders also met with business owners today. you see, they want the business community to think that president obama is the enemy in all of this. >> although the president seems obsessed about raising taxes on you, we feel that's not the right direction to go. >> it's interesting how no one from the bibz community has said president obama is wrong in all of this. none of the ceos who met with the president of the united states today came forward and challenged the president's plan. de
of the butt fumblers is a man named woody johnson. he was a chairman of mitt romney's campaign this year. he hosted a luncheon for big time republican bundlers. the audience was reince priebus who attended the meeting. it was his rnc who hired the firm ran by the improprieties to run the voter registration efforts in five swing states. when that firm, ran by that guy with the shady past was inevitably accused of doing shady things this year with voter registration, the republican party in all of those states had to fire the firm which ended voter registration in the final crucial week before the election. there was no plan b. thanks, reince. the republicans just had to give up registering voters in those states. maybe that came up in today's meeting. also potentially on the menu today, the rnc field program, part of the ground effort that was just swamped this year. the republicans get out to vote technology crashed early on election day. one campaign telling the daily beast, everything about the system that was supposed to work actually failed. so these dozens of big-time republican donors
romney sits. that will haunt mitt romney for a long time, 47%. let's move on 0. on the swings states, check this out here. having a little bit of a slow response rate. in the swing states, look at where president obama's percentages are at. he did better in the swing states than overall. mitt romney's 47.2%. 12 swings states broadly outlined. we throw in pennsylvania and a minnesota among 0 others. the nonswing states, the president still has over 50.7% there. mitt romney, there's that number again, 47%. let's move on to the margin of victory in the swing states. the president had a four-point margin of victory in the nonswing states. it was closer to three points. let's move on to where he won and how it counted. here, 62% of electoral votes for the president. 332 out of 538. just six presidents, six presidents, have won at least two elections with 51% of the vote or more and not since eisenhower has any president done that. the president, though, only won 22% of all counties. that's the lowest percentage out of 689. that's the lowest percentage of counties that any one president ha
've learned over the years in advertising. >> what's interesting is the romney campaign didn't do it. >> i was about to say, josh, how did that compare with the beached whale of the rnc and the romney campaign officially known as orca? you know, give me some sense here that we had a clue, but i guess not, right? >> well, no. i mean, i think we're talking about two different things here. the obama campaign in general when it came to technology was years more advanced, i'm afraid, than anything the rnc or romney did. maybe that has something to do with your departure, michael. >> i would think so. we can have that conversation, too. >> the obama campaign, not only did they have a staff of 20 people writing just these e-mails, they were sort of monkeys chained to typewriters or computers, i guess. they also had an entire digital analytics team that would run controlled a.b. testing of each of these different e-mails. they would find the one that worked, and then they would blast that out to their e-mail list of tens of millions of supporters who dutifully would chip in more and more money. i
he was looking for, he definitely got it although the romney tattoo will soon fade into nothing but a cheeky memory, eric's place on the "ridiculist," that i promise you, is permanent. that's it for us. "early start" begins now. >>> the manhunt is the over. brand new video of the men arguing on the subway platform. "the new york post" cover that has the paper in hot water this morning. >> plus we have the 911 tapes and the alleged murder/suicide involving kansas city chiefs play er javon belcher. >>> and there's no plan to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff. broken record, broken record. i'm christine romans in today for john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >>> up first, president obama standing his ground over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes f
is that 2012 was very much a beauty contest between mitt romney and barack obama. all of the issues that mattered so much in the 2010 election like health care, we didn't have that conversation. we think it should be a choice between fiscal responsibility and patient control over health care versus a bigger government solution. i think we could win that fight and i think 2014 is going to be more about issues and there's opportunities, i think, to increase the gains that we made in 2010. >> well, midterm elections are one thing and what -- and it's possible you could win arguments, but when more people vote, is it harder to win this conservative argument? >> well, mitt romney was hardly part of this new generation of fiscally responsible republicans that we've been repopulating the party with, but if you look forward to 2016, you're talking about some pretty interesting young dynamic people like marco rubio and rand paul and maybe scott walker. these are all political leaders in the republican party that weren't there when mitt romney and john mccain before him got into the queue and
to take a look at the title of a new "washington post" article. the title, a detached romney tends wounds in seclusion after failed white house bid. the headline is brutal. can you interpret what mitt romney's life entails right now? >> 25 years after losing the white house in 1972 to richard nixon. george mcgovern was asked in the mid 1980s, how do you get over losing the white house? he said ask me in ten years, i'm still trying to get over it. there's no question, when you put your heart and soul in this, when your family goes through the wringer, when you've been running for president, in mitt romney's case for four years, it takes a lot. it takes a lot out of him and it will take a long time for him to get over there, no question about it. >> my burning question to you, doug, after the break. sit tight. >>> amy gardner, robert traynham, doug hattaway, are all back on the big three. my big question to you, dourks should the president be taking this political risk of nominating susan rice for the secretary of state? what's the cost/benefit ratio here? >> that's a good question, i think
to president obama once again this year. not as much so as in 2008, but a big advantage over governor romney. 59 to 37%. why do you think that was? >> you know, we were able to make strides among the youth, decreasing the president's lead from 2008. this year we carried 37% of all 18 to 29-year-olds. this was a big accomplishment for the republican national college commit. we had our largest field staff out. 63 field reps in 25 battle ground states and together they produced about 7.2 million live voter contacts and recruited 52,000 new cr's. so we were tremendously proud of our field efforts. and i think that's largely what you see reflected in those numbers. if you really break down those numbers, though, governor romney made big leaps and strides among the white male vote of 18 to 29-year-olds, but we still suffered as a party with young women and young minority voters. so i think that overall, this says to college republicans that we'll have to engage more with the communities and really refine our message when talking to those folks. >> rick: meghan, how much of it do you think is socia
policy proposal that either governor romney or president obama put out during the campaign. >> okay. let me turn you to benghazi. you've been quite outspoken, senator, i know about susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, the things that she said on the sunday following the benghazi attack which turned out not to be true. are her chances to become secretary of state should the president nominate her, and we expect something to happen this week on that, are her chances over? >> well, candy, i did meet with her this week. i remain very troubled not only myself, for example, the ranking republican susan collins of the homeland security committee raised some very important questions after meeting with her. here's where we are. after the meeting with her lfs an impression that she went on and repeated some unclassified talking points on all the sunday shows, but she had the daily intelligence briefings, including the lassfied talking -- materials that basically had -- that individuals with ties to al qaeda were involved. she did. that -- she had reviewed it before going on sunday shows, and went on t
under george w. bush and adviser to mitt romney. secretary gutierrez, thanks for joining us this morning. >> pleasure, thank you. >> we've heard from republicans about what needs to change, immigration and taxes, abortion. they talk about needing to reach out to voters, but i need you to put some meat on that bone for me. what does reaching out mean? does that mean a softening of a position? does that mean a changing of position, abandonment? what's there? >> well, it needs to start with articulating a position, and, you know, we have been and we need to strengthen our position as the party of individual empowerment, of growth, of prosperity, of individual opportunity, of small business, of less intrusive government, lower taxes, let people keep more of their money so they can continue to grow. >> so you think the problem is that during the election that the -- the points were not articulated properly? i mean, some would say that they heard the points but just disagree. >> there were some things that perhaps aren't consistent with that strategy, and one thing that i am very focused on is
. republicans are not getting the mitt romney tax proposal. time to move on speaker boehner. republicans are furious about the white house proposal. mitch mcconnell told the weekly standard he burst into laughter when he received the deal. the new second ranking republican in the senate john cornyn also disparaged the deal. >> that's a crazy idea. i'm amazed that secretary geithner had the courage to float that yesterday. hence the laughter from senator mcconnell. that's the kind of response it deserves. >> they are laughing in public, but they are panicking behind closed doors. conservative writer matt lewis, writer for "the daily caller", the notion that republicans have leverage is silly. it's the same kind of happy thinking that led to some boldly-predicting a romney victory. he said republicans are so screwed. this is why president obama is playing to his strengths. the president has never had a problem rallying the american people to his side. >> understand this was a central question in the election. maybe thee central question in the election. we talked about this a lot. >> repub
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'm sorry, admiral. when governor romney said that, pointed that out to president obama in the debate, he was -- we had horses and bayonets, too. he seemed to make light of that. how important is it? can you give us a sense of the impact? >> i think the president's comment is showing his inexperience in military matters. in this particular case we are going down to 220 ships. to put that number in perspective, i had 2505 ships under my command in the pacific flees. 20 percent of those 220 ships will be the literal combat ships which basically have no offensive or defensive capability. we are going to be challenged where we show weakness. and let me give you an example. just today china announced effective january 1 they have authorized their paramilitary naval forces and their police to stop all vessels in the south china sea that they consider to be there illegally if they have not requested permission. this must be rejected in the most strongest terms. this hits at the core capability of international maritime law, freedom of transit, freedom of navigation rights. lou: we have not heard
romney. >> they are using the stuff that is done in the budget control last year. >> those are terrible talking points. >> let me say this point. >> hang on a second. i want to go to guy benson on another point. there is a lot of talk that the republicans might have a doom's day scenario. if there is a budget stalemate, then the republicans will allow a vote on the house floor which is the democrats from the sen e senate. they will vote present therefore it will go through. that is called the doom's day scenario. it would be a ho mage to the president. it is this sill ily plaf lily p. you could completely own it. you could say we are letting the country burn. and i think it is seductive. but it is irresponsible. >> they are going to keep fighting. i have to leave it there. president obama says no deal on the fiscal cliff. >> how does raising tax rates on the rich help the poor. that is what i don't get. true free market capitalism helps everybody. a rising tide lifts all boats. i'm laugrry kudlow we will be right back. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp h
inclusiveness theme, is that a jab of the romney 47% comments as well? >> he was saying you just can't divide the country and romney said 47% of them believe they're entitled and then there is, you know, the rest of us and we're never going to get them, i think what ryan was saying was, of course we can get them. we just have to talk to them. and that, of course, brooke, you've been talking about this today, this plays into the whole fiscal cliff debate up on capitol hill, which is republicans trying to decide whether they're going to go over that cliff in order to preserve a tax cut for the wealthiest 2% of americans. this is a big -- >> a big moment. a big moment for the republican party. let me just put it -- i want to hear a little bit more of the sound and we'll keep the conversation going. take a listen. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people
they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's missed that message. that's what they need to turn to. >> it's going to be interesting to see how they do that and if ted cruz becomes sort of the force in this. what do you think? what's your gut, mike? >> he's already offering himself -- he clearly wants to play that role. >> yeah. >> he said last night, i'm something that's not supposed to exist, a hispanic republican. so ted cruz is one of the most interesting parts of this reinvention of the republican party. another part of it, the new emphasis on immigration. >> yes. >> the effort to reach hispanics. we have a story up today saying that already republicans are going to pieces over this. that
criticized governor romney's plan based on the premise there is not enough revenue in the loop homes. he has agreed to the flame work, revenues or the table. we will give you $800 billion. that is great starting point. president has insulted republicans who are going out on the limb by wanting to be more pragmatic about this by coming to the congress which even among the most liberal writers in it is not a serious proposal. the reality it has to be some point spending becomes the conversation, not revenue. >> we have given quite a bit up. we have given up $2.5 trillion. >> you gave up 2.5 in budget gimmicks. things that were going to end anyway. >> boehner and cantor do not want to tax the wealthy donors. that is what it comes down to. are we going to balance this budget? it's the engine of the economy it's going to be middle-class americans -- >> i'm giving you an honest. >> heather: this has to be the last word in five seconds. >> if i gave you every tax increase you wanted, it would take us one time for the solution, we have to talk about spending cuts. >> heather: as we discussed in the
have that are quite legitimate. for example, mitt romney, not to bring him up again, but you may remember mitt romney. he paid 13.9% on $20 million in earnings. i look at that and i asked why i am paying three times as much. megyn: capital gains tax rate is different from the income tax rate in this country. on social security he a lower rate -- [talking over each other] megyn: president clinton lowered the capital gains rate. there is no correlation between its relation to investment income and earn income. megyn: why demonize the rich? the mortgage meltdown was a nightmare. but why demonize all of the rich? >> i hope to be rich one day. i aspire to. i would love to be a billionaire. i think people have admiration for the ones who follow the rules and who actually earn what they may. but when someone basically sits on their assets and gets 13.9% of the tax rate, i think that frustrates people. megyn: but that is legal. are you saying it's morally wrong? [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> not at all. it is legal. but the law is asinine. there is no reason why
this. i'm pretty confused about why the romney campaign didn't hit the obama care tax argument harder on the campaign trail because the supreme court ruled it a tax for good reason. it had gone through the numbers here on your show. this hit small businesses and in return hits the middle class, the very people that these small businesses employ, the people who will get hid the hardest, even though making $200,000 per year are the ones employing the middle class that president obama keep propping up to get his agenda passed. >> now we have this $20 million medical device tax. this has been around. i believe you write this will really crush medical innovation in the united states. >> right. i think this is one of the more severe tax thaeds we're going to see. essentially with this medical device tax, they're tacking on more costs to life saving devices such as mechanical hearts. it does the same thing as a doctor shortage. the students that go into these programs, myio medical engineering, are not going to see a return on their investment because it's going to be a too expensive for com
of the year i will be surprised. yes "time" nominated mitt romney but he he has no chance. neither does hillary clinton who is somewhat responsible for the libyan mess. bill clinton is on the list. i would vote for jay-z over the president. no to bill clinton sea brilliant man. why would he be person of the year? for what. you can see we are living in a very shallow time in america. pardon the pun. truth is, we have very few dynamic leaders in this country where is abe lincoln when we need him. like 1860 america is a divided nation there is a culture war raging. we need a person to bring us together to solve complicated problems and stop all the nonsense. lincoln could have done it. republic-- strike that gist and kirsten powers the democrat and fox news analyst. who is your person of the year? >> while using "time" magazine's criteria which doesn't mean it's necessarily a person you think is good or bad or but someone who we spent a lot of time talking about who has a real impact this year i think would be mohammed morsi who is on their list of people to choose from the first democrati
, donald, has been on our program a lot. he was a big supporter of romney. there were stories going around that you said, dad, pull it back a bit. you don't have to be so negative on the president. is that what happened? >> it was fascinating because this was a widely circulated report that was without fact at all, and not one reporter actually called and asked the question you just did, which is, is that true? no, it wasn't. my father has been a very important part of the dialogue. he's been saying a lot of things that other people, you know, not wanting to be in a space where they're talking about politics, they don't see it as advantageous. they're not really speaking their minds. it would not be my place to tell him to tone anything down. >> are you worried about the fiscal cliff? how is business going? you're an entrepreneur in your own right. i want to talk to you about business, but how you preparing for the cliff? >> well, there's no way one can be preparing. you have to be think about uncertainty as you make your investment decision. in terms of fiscal policy, obviously there's a
'm proud of the campaign that mitt romney and i ran. losing is part of politics. and it can often prepare the way for greater victories. >> speaking of greater victories, at the latest "washington post"/abc poll on hillary clinton, chris cizilla indicates strong support for hillary clinton. she has really i guess she's the most popular figure in american politics. >> she is at her highest popularity rating that we have ever in "the washington post"/abc poll measured her and almost six in ten, 57% of americans, this isn't democrats, this is the american public broadly, want her to run for president in 2016. now, i would say, if she becomes a candidate, i think -- inevitably she'll be seen much more in that partisan atmosphere, some of her stratospheric numbers will drop down. i would say she has been skeptical very skeptical of running. if you look at these numbers if you have any interest of being the president of the united states this may be a hard race to say no to. >> i think the rest of the political world knows what is likely to happen. chris cizilla, thank you very much. susan page
wanted to go in inner cities, talk about poverty, and he got slapped back by the romney folks who said there's no constituency, there's no votes, we're not focusing on those issues. >> what's the next act for paul ryan coming off a losing vice presidential bid? what does he do four years from now or eight years from now? >> from my reporting, it's clear that rubio wants it and wants it badly. and i think wanting it matters when running for president. if you want it badly, you'll do all that stuff. we understand from folks talking to paul ryan, he doesn't want it as badly and isn't sure he wants to run. for the next two years, he's front and center in the fiscal debate. is he going to be the leader of resistance among conservatives or part of the solution? and i don't think he's made a decision yet. early signals are he's not where john boehner and others are as far as his openness to certain compromises, but at the end of the day, he could be there and i think that will be a big indication of what he wants to do and where he goes. >> and paul ryan signed on to the boehner plan yesterda
, fundamentally, is an awful lot like what mitt romney was talking about during the campaign. the deductions, for example, if we're going to get the $800 billion from, you can't -- they don't add up. you can't get there with those deductions. >> but it's also a lot like erskine bowles proposal before the simpson-bowles commission. because in other words it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is where the proposal -- >> -- >> listen that's a point. that's how extreme this is, bob. and -- >> in terms of -- does not have the rate reductions, does not convert medicare and does not convert medicaid to a voucher. it doesn't have the structural changes that are objectionable to the democrats. there's a lack of specifics here. but if i'm the president i'm thinking they're putting $800 billion on the table in removing deductions and exemptions i'm going to pocket that and add some of the additional revenue from rates i can get from allowing rates to expire. >> we're going to be talking to senator johnson this morning also xavier becerra about the details or lack of details in the two compet
requested the hearing to ask that the charges against him be dismissed. >>> mitt romney and president obama promising to stay in touch. the formal rivals spent an hour discussing ideas to. a source tells cnn there's no discussion for a roll for romney in the obama administration. just a civil lunch. >>> a truck goes into a bar -- no, this is not the set up to a joke, folks. take a look at the result. police say the driver of a snap-on tools truck lost control, knocked off a fire hydrant and crashed through a place called pete's cocktails. it left an 11-foot wide hole in the wall. you can see water rocketing into the air. the good news is everyone was okay. >>> after sandy, a stroke of luck for a man affected by the superstorm. joel was heading to work when he stopped to check his power ball ticket. he was one of 58 people who came up one number short of the big jackpot. >> put it in the machine. he said you're a winner. not only that, you won $1 million. >> several other lotto winners hit the $33 million megamillions. >> that's great. 38 minutes past the hour. >>> the cars of the future and
. and i was surprised in the campaign that neither the president nor mitt romney actually took that as sort of a bull whip to kind of shape the argument. >> talking like that, that's why you're referred to as former republican national chairman. >> funny. >> there's an interesting, you know, i don't know, third rail option -- i don't think it will come to this -- but there's sort of a -- let's say we go over the cliff. the republicans, you know, do not -- they hold firm. we go over the cliff. then we'll no doubt reinstate the tax cuts on the middle class. so then they could have political cover for actually taking credit for the tax cuts. even though -- of course, we don't want it to come to that. that would destroy the markets, i think. >> oh, yeah. >> do you have any idea of how many times willie and i have taken this particular show over the cliff? >> we did it about 6:01 this morning. lay on the gas. by the way, "the wall street journal" is calling for republicans to call the president's bluff on. we'll get into that later. >>> coming up, in ordford ceo a mulally. also nbc
disparity. things like that. mitt romney's tax rate. those come up in that argument. listen, it may be certainly they wanted to do it before the end of the year. this having been a leverage buyout, they like to keep their leverage ratio pretty high. 4.5 times. then they generate cash flow and pay it down and go to capital markets and borrow another billion dollars and they pay two more dollars to their holders who continue to be some of the lbo firms that took it private. >> that's a game plan that works. >> it has worked well. >> rates are so low. why doesn't everybody do that? >> works well. as a former fully owned by private equity they are more comfortable with leverage than others are. >> a level of comfort that i find to be -- they are insensitive to the economy and they're a winner in obama care. 2014 begins and i'm picking numbers up. hca. even with this leverage. raising numbers, hca, 2014. i'm doing that right now. cramer firm is taking up numbers. >> you did it in your head. >> i did. i'm going to ask the sales force to go out with it and i think he can get the stock movi
rock band led zeppelin and during the reception for the event mitt romney supporter kid rock ran in to president obama. rock said the president wasn't awkward in fact he said they were able to laugh off their rivalry. >> he said i'm still here. so no hard feelings and he remembered meeting my son when i played his inauguration which was very special. >> kid rock also ran in to wolf blitzer right before the ceremony. wolf tweeted this picture hash tag very cool. >> great advice. meanwhile sunday night football action the dallas cowboys take on the eagles. really a big night for cowboys quarterback tony romo who threw three touchdown passes in the second half as he led the cowboys to a 38-33 victory. romo's also drove the cowboys record for career touchdown passes. a record previously held by troy aikman with 165. romo now has 168 career tds. >> the pope is joining twitter starting december 12th pope benedict will begin tweeting using the handle @pontifex. a vatican official told cnn the pope will be composing the tweets himself. the pontiff is no stranger to twitter. the vatican l
. but when marco rubio was giving his speech, he didn't mention the word "romney" once, and there was a message in that. and that was that he's turning the page. and so that passage that you were just talking to is his idea that there's a new conservatism that can appeal to more people -- that more people in society, people in even, say, the 47%, can be convinced that conservatives can help them. >> all right. mike allen. >> harold, would you like to crinkle up some more papers? >> i apologize. i was getting excited with this paper. learning how to fold. >> he was teaching him how to do origami. i thought it wasn't the right time. >> paper airplanes. very impressed with what i saw of marco rubio yesterday and how he handled the science question. he was light afoot. i thought he handle it had very well. >> ran the gauntlet of the mike allen primary, which is a key part of anyone getting elected president. but i'll say, you talk to republicans about 16 -- and obviously people are already talking about it -- on the broadcast on "way too early," hillary clinton, what people
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